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#225468 - 09/22/09 08:46 PM
QUESTIONS -- is ex a deadbeat??
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Ok,
I have nothing to lose so here it is.
I am CP of 3 kids. X just stopped paying support as soon as I took a salaried position with benefits.
He is retired from the military. Retirement pay I can only guess is $1500. He remarried a few months after divorce. (I know this doesn't factor for child support)
I just started my position and have not had a paycheck since July when my last contract ended (I am a teacher.)
My salary is public knowledge, at just under 40k per year. My total income this year IN December will be 28k.
X retired in January. CS at time of disolution was 2100. After 16 years of marriage I received 1000 alimony for 11, yes 11 months which he negotiated down from 5 years to align with his retirement, and waived my community property rights to 45% of his retirement.
I realize the unemployment rate in CA is over 12%. He has not found a job. He is capable of earning over 100k in the civilian sector. (His wife works full time, no children.) In February I agreed to $700 child support, not in writing, but as a temporary amount until he found a job. He payed me a total of 5 months support since February in the amount of $500. I told him if he didn't pay the full $700 I will hold him liable for the full $2100.
Now he wants to seek mediation to have CS reduced, and I can't say I blame him completely. However he seems to think I will need to pay him CS for the time he spends with the kids. he has them 27%.
QUESTIONS: 1. How does a judge typically impute salary? (If he imputed minimum wage, am I right to assume this gets added to his retirement? He seems to think that the judge will impute UP to full time minimum wage, ONLY -- NOT all sources of income... not to mention his pending disability hearing which should land him 60% VA disability for service related issues. OR is it imputed at what his is capable of earning? Either way... I don't know how he can calculate that I ow him support moneys.)
2. Is he not responsible to pay the support order as written until it is modified? (If this is so, since I am making ends meet, should I just wait until he motions a change in CS? Or should I just go to the county child support office?? At this point some money is better than nothing.
3. Can I still fax DFAS to have money come out of his retirement? (I have been hesitant to do this as his retirement is LESS than the court ordered child support and I have a HEART -- probably TOO MUCH of one.)
4. Can a judge retroactively alter child support? (He seems to think that the amount was unfair, even though he agreed to it 2 years ago, and that a judge will make me pay him excess -- I was a full time student at the time of divorce working a $10/hour job to make ends meet.
5. Should I initiate things through a lawyer or the county? (I have no cash reserves, infact I have ran up my credit card debt during the 2 months I had no paycheck. I will be fine though as I am employed.)
This has all started, and his harassing emails, when I closed on a modest condo that my parents helped me to purchase. My rent used to be over $2000 -- I live in San Diego and need a 3 bedroom as I have 3 children. My mortgage is now less than $1750 which saves me a significant amount. I think he is just spiteful that I am making it ON MY OWN and my kids are happy.
I HAVE NOT nickel and dimed him for 50% of medical and dental, although I should have.
I feel like a stooge, and at this point have nothing to lose as he is paying me nothing.
THANK YOU for any and all of your responses.
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#225471 - 09/23/09 01:18 AM
Re: QUESTIONS -- is ex a deadbeat??
[Re: LaraSings]
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Registered: 07/13/05
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Ok,
I have nothing to lose so here it is.
I am CP of 3 kids. X just stopped paying support as soon as I took a salaried position with benefits.
He is retired from the military. Retirement pay I can only guess is $1500. He remarried a few months after divorce. (I know this doesn't factor for child support)
I just started my position and have not had a paycheck since July when my last contract ended (I am a teacher.)
My salary is public knowledge, at just under 40k per year. My total income this year IN December will be 28k.
X retired in January. CS at time of disolution was 2100. After 16 years of marriage I received 1000 alimony for 11, yes 11 months which he negotiated down from 5 years to align with his retirement, and waived my community property rights to 45% of his retirement.
I realize the unemployment rate in CA is over 12%. He has not found a job. He is capable of earning over 100k in the civilian sector. (His wife works full time, no children.) In February I agreed to $700 child support, not in writing, but as a temporary amount until he found a job. He payed me a total of 5 months support since February in the amount of $500. I told him if he didn't pay the full $700 I will hold him liable for the full $2100. If it were me, I wouldn't make any other adjustments outside of the court order. And anyone who wants a job, can still find a job now. Maybe not what we want, or the highest salary, but there are plenty of jobs out there.
Now he wants to seek mediation to have CS reduced, and I can't say I blame him completely. However he seems to think I will need to pay him CS for the time he spends with the kids. he has them 27%.
QUESTIONS: 1. How does a judge typically impute salary? (If he imputed minimum wage, am I right to assume this gets added to his retirement? He seems to think that the judge will impute UP to full time minimum wage, ONLY -- NOT all sources of income... not to mention his pending disability hearing which should land him 60% VA disability for service related issues. OR is it imputed at what his is capable of earning? Either way... I don't know how he can calculate that I ow him support moneys.)
I would recommend checking with the family law facilitator on this question (if not your attorney) my understanding, is that all sources of income are eligible for imputation. I don't think minimum wage gets added TO retirement pay though, it will include disability. (Again, this is my opinion, I haven't looked it up.) Our situation is support is imputed at minimum wage - the NCP has (probably fraudulently) qualified for SSI disability. The garnishment comes directly from the disability. 2. Is he not responsible to pay the support order as written until it is modified? Yes he is, or at least the date of filing of a modification.
(If this is so, since I am making ends meet, should I just wait until he motions a change in CS? Or should I just go to the county child support office?? At this point some money is better than nothing.
3. Can I still fax DFAS to have money come out of his retirement? (I have been hesitant to do this as his retirement is LESS than the court ordered child support and I have a HEART -- probably TOO MUCH of one.)
Lose the heart - and fax DFAS.
4. Can a judge retroactively alter child support? (He seems to think that the amount was unfair, even though he agreed to it 2 years ago, and that a judge will make me pay him excess -- I was a full time student at the time of divorce working a $10/hour job to make ends meet.
the only retroactive is to the date of filing of modification, not when someone arbitrarily decides it became "unfair"
5. Should I initiate things through a lawyer or the county? (I have no cash reserves, infact I have ran up my credit card debt during the 2 months I had no paycheck. I will be fine though as I am employed.) my experience indicates that if there is something tangible that the county can garnish they are a decent option. If there's fighting (or if he will retain an attorney) I would say get an attorney, and find out how he can help pay for it, since he's the one not paying child support.
This has all started, and his harassing emails, when I closed on a modest condo that my parents helped me to purchase. My rent used to be over $2000 -- I live in San Diego and need a 3 bedroom as I have 3 children. My mortgage is now less than $1750 which saves me a significant amount. I think he is just spiteful that I am making it ON MY OWN and my kids are happy. This isn't something you can control or fix, I'd concentrate on what can be fixed.
I HAVE NOT nickel and dimed him for 50% of medical and dental, although I should have. I'm not sure I consider it nickel and diming when it's part of the order.
I feel like a stooge, and at this point have nothing to lose as he is paying me nothing.
THANK YOU for any and all of your responses.
I would go by court order, and court or other enforcement options as much as possible. Oh, and I would fax the DFAS before going through the child support department, you become limited to what they will pursue once you sign up with them. If you can get it automatically from the service, I would cut the middle man (DCCS) out.
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#225484 - 09/23/09 09:11 AM
Re: QUESTIONS -- is ex a deadbeat??
[Re: LaraSings]
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Registered: 06/17/03
Posts: 6740
Loc: S. California
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I am CP of 3 kids. X just stopped paying support as soon as I took a salaried position with benefits. You mean - he didn't return to court to seek a modification? That's what he should've done. Now he is just hurting himself. The longer he sits on this, the more he'll owe.
However he seems to think I will need to pay him CS for the time he spends with the kids. he has them 27%. He may be looking at a Dissomaster calculation and assuming that a judge is not going to hold him responsible because he is "retired". The judge may not necessarily rule this way, especially given the circumstances - that he's basically trying to avoid child support by funneling most income through the spouse. 1. How does a judge typically impute salary? (If he imputed minimum wage, am I right to assume this gets added to his retirement? He seems to think that the judge will impute UP to full time minimum wage, ONLY -- NOT all sources of income... not to mention his pending disability hearing which should land him 60% VA disability for service related issues. OR is it imputed at what his is capable of earning? Either way... I don't know how he can calculate that I owe him support moneys.) From what you wrote, it looks like he's just using his current income from retirement. He's not believing that income will be imputed at all. Judges may use several different ways to impute income - such as the minimum wage you reported, or based on education or salary history. Your party may proprose what you believe his imputed income would be. 2. Is he not responsible to pay the support order as written until it is modified? (If this is so, since I am making ends meet, should I just wait until he motions a change in CS? Or should I just go to the county child support office?? At this point some money is better than nothing. Yes. He is falling into arrears. If the state is enforcing your order - he'll begin accruing interest and may be subject to sanctions. 3. Can I still fax DFAS to have money come out of his retirement? (I have been hesitant to do this as his retirement is LESS than the court ordered child support and I have a HEART -- probably TOO MUCH of one.) Yes, but it may slow things down. So.. be careful and use this as a sort of ace in the hole. 4. Can a judge retroactively alter child support? (He seems to think that the amount was unfair, even though he agreed to it 2 years ago, and that a judge will make me pay him excess -- I was a full time student at the time of divorce working a $10/hour job to make ends meet. Judges may alter back to the date of filing. 5. Should I initiate things through a lawyer or the county? (I have no cash reserves, infact I have ran up my credit card debt during the 2 months I had no paycheck. I will be fine though as I am employed.) It depends on what you want to do - a letter from a lawyer telling him what you are going to do if he doesn't fend for his kids might be a good start - but if you are out of money yourself, state collection may be one of the few viable options.
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#225887 - 09/30/09 10:20 AM
Re: QUESTIONS -- is ex a deadbeat??
[Re: Tali_Llama]
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Registered: 07/13/06
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TALI-
3. Can I still fax DFAS to have money come out of his retirement? (I have been hesitant to do this as his retirement is LESS than the court ordered child support and I have a HEART -- probably TOO MUCH of one.) Yes, but it may slow things down. So.. be careful and use this as a sort of ace in the hole
Do you suggest I not do that? Would it be better to go to the county to have them start collections? What would be quicker? ANY support at this point is better than none.
Originally Posted By: LaraSings 4. Can a judge retroactively alter child support? (He seems to think that the amount was unfair, even though he agreed to it 2 years ago, and that a judge will make me pay him excess -- I was a full time student at the time of divorce working a $10/hour job to make ends meet. Judges may alter back to the date of filing.
Date of filing for initial support -- ergo at dissolution, or date of filing for a CS adjustment? Because he has yet to do that, he just threatens he will. I even offered him to lower it significantly for 6 months and would have a statement signed and notarized forgiving him for backed support, but he refused. Just threatened mediation. At this point I refuse to talk to him because he continues to be abusive toward me, and hangs up whenever I stand up for myself.
Originally Posted By: LaraSings 5. Should I initiate things through a lawyer or the county? (I have no cash reserves, infact I have ran up my credit card debt during the 2 months I had no paycheck. I will be fine though as I am employed.) It depends on what you want to do - a letter from a lawyer telling him what you are going to do if he doesn't fend for his kids might be a good start - but if you are out of money yourself, state collection may be one of the few viable options.
What are other viable options?
Sorry for the delay, but thank you for your info. I am working at an inner city school and have little to no time for anything anymore. I am sick today, so I was able to hop online and check replies.
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#225968 - 10/01/09 08:09 AM
Re: QUESTIONS -- is ex a deadbeat??
[Re: LaraSings]
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Registered: 06/17/03
Posts: 6740
Loc: S. California
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Do you suggest I not do that? Would it be better to go to the county to have them start collections? What would be quicker? ANY support at this point is better than none. By all means, the military, like any other employer, is a fine option for collection of support. Note though, that the feds and many states have limits as to how much of a paycheck can be collected. For instance, I believe Federal entities will collect no more than 60% of a paycheck, while all employers in California are limited to 50% of a paycheck.
It would be smart to make use of all the options available to you until he learns that he cannot just stop providing support (food/shelter, etc) for the kids.
Date of filing for initial support -- ergo at dissolution, or date of filing for a CS adjustment? Because he has yet to do that, he just threatens he will. I even offered him to lower it significantly for 6 months and would have a statement signed and notarized forgiving him for backed support, but he refused. Just threatened mediation. At this point I refuse to talk to him because he continues to be abusive toward me, and hangs up whenever I stand up for myself. The judge can rule back to the date of filing on the matter before the court. So, if it were the initial divorce, the judge could order child support back to the date the petition and summons were filed/served. If it were a modification and the judge approved, your party could request the judge order the adjustment of support back to the date when you first filed the modification.
It sounds like he's just going to be cantankerous, so give him fair warning asking for him to come to the bargaining table, and if not- he should be prepared to come up with some legal fees.
What are other viable options? There are other choices - like going after private assets he might have. There's an excellent Nolo Press book available that explains court collection processes. You have to do some reading and learn how to locate assets - but what it boils down to first is convincing him that he wants to comply and support his own children before the state enforcement agency is called in to handle things.
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